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Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
With IPL, ICL, Stever bucknor, Darrell Hair, in past SA v Ind test where the match referree was locked out of ground and ICC had to strip the game of the test status, qts that comes to mind is Asian block running of cricket is good or bad for the cricket.
BCCI which basically spearheads the Asian block has not shown any leadership quality, sadly no asian team has shown and reasonable quality to lead and nurture the game. Everyone talk about evolution of game, but 20/20 is not cricket per se, its not evolution its just another form of baseball.
Forget abt T20, test or ODI merit, what asian block countries have done to improve the quality of cricket? Every board is only looking for more money instead of spending money on to improve quality of cricket in their homeboard.
Both Pakistan and India didnt even went to 2nd stage and were eliminated in 1st round of WC. At the time, BCCI has accused players of concentrating more on money. Now with IPL same players earning more.
Wat worrisome, is BCCI insistence of blocking players who play in ICL to even particpate in the domestic cricket. T20 will not produce test cricketer or ODI cricketer for tat matter it will worsened the quality of cricket.
ICC is conceived as rubber stamp of asian block shouldn't we have truly independent governing body insstead of current form where all boards decides what should ICC do?
With bullying tactics and pure money grab is asian block ruining cricket or improving cricket?
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
well ...will post in detail later..but the basic thing is...ICC has to step up.....asian block is going to ruin cricket...but that wont change...so icc should step up..and ban icl ipl...and see we the cricketing body...and domestic games should also be runnign according to icc
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
ICC ICC ICC abay who runs ICC, thats my whole point as it stands all board members have to agree to make president CEO umpires and all that cricket boards run the ICC, so asian block gets 4 plus they add WI and zim n voila u have majority. Take for eg umpitring, each board appoints 2 umpires to the elite panel, instead if ICC was truly independent, they will look at programs and monitor umpires directly, appointing them on merit basis and demoting them on merit basis.
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03-13-2008
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
what asian block asian block?????
India and pak and sri....... we run cricket..... With out india and pak there would be no cricket...... And we the asian "blocks" Provide the most of the revenue and entertainment what else people want??????
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03-14-2008
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
If no one plays us then where will u get revenue, braoden ur horizon man, if today there is a block against aisa block and thye stop players from playing in any form of cricket in india where will the revenue come? Stop saying same thing we create more money, more money dun mean u da smartest lolz
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
Thats your internal problem not international. first control that situation than nations will automatically come to play....
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Stop saying same thing we create more money, more money dun mean u da smartest lolz
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Dont get jealous... haha
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03-20-2008
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
the day i get jelous of BCCI i will committ suicide lozl I dun get jelous of incompetence and greed lol
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
very interesting now BCCI telling other boards wat to do lol isey kehtey hain bandar ke haath naryal lag jana.
ICL season was better then expected, NZ WI getting peeved at BCCI adn with Eng soon opening thier own tournament things dun look good for BCCI. PCB chairman days are numbered and new chairman will distance himself from BCCI as 1st oppurtunity. England players banned by ECB already lookin to sue and Pak players will soon be suing PCB, end result they will not be banned. Lalit Modi says next IPL tournament wont happen for next 4 yrs. With Haroon LOgart coming as New CEO India wont be able to blame ICC for anything.
I see Cricket getting worst not better, untill unless other boards take a stand against BCCI.
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
yea everyone stand against the bcci..lol..nothing will happen...sab kahana ki batan hai...yaara i never heard bcci telling pcb to ban your players that join icl....bcci doesnt wants its players to play in icl...thats indian cricket problem.....the indian players can complain and file case....but who told other boards to do the same?
it has already ruined the careers of razzaq and bond...how many more?
and btw cyb..how was icl season good? i think it was for you guys cuz of lahore badshaas dominance..other then that...there was nothing special really..i dont think many people bothered to watch it.......
and ipl will be a hit....too many international stars missing? who cares.....lots of retired players still there...dude indian public will come and watch even if its only few international players...ofcourse crowds are going to be atleast triple of those in icl......you mite not think so...but i know that already thousand's of people want to see sachin take on warne for one last time....or many such old battles that can repeat....t20 excites every person....
Ipl is going to kick ass....which in itself is bad for cricket....wut are these leagues for yaar? if ipl is hit.then bcci will be a hit..and will introduce something else..i hate our board...they dont use their brains..just like to see money flying....
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dream on abt ICl not being hit the crowd were bigger and tv viewer were better then last time. With tri-series btween pak X1, Ind X1 and world Xi programmed by ICL u think they will not get viewers lolz.
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dude...agreed it was better then last time...but you think ipl will be less? how can you think that man? international players will attract more crowd for sure
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Re: Is Asian Block (mainly BCCI) Running cricket good or bad?
lol BCCI and jackie chan's stunts ... I'm just waiting for the day when we'd have a champions league sort of thing for cricket, i'd go nutts man!! As for as BCCI is concerned, i think its getting off the track, too many things on BCCIs table and thats when confusion kicks in, if BCCI focuses more on making money and less on controlin' the rest of the world, it'd be better, but it aint and thats a tragedy and because of BCCI-interest-oriented-tactics, Asian block may fall flat.
IPL would be a hit for sure but you cant say that ICL is a flop, i watched every single game(some recordings though) and most of the games were interesting, Twenty20 is a thrill anyways and 2nd season have been awesome, not just because of Badshahs but there were alot of quality games. IPL should be judged as a League but it wont be, i think BCCI is missing the trick here, majority of the cricket world is seeing it as a BCCI league and right now, BCCI may be in driving seat but it sure is attracting alot of enemies too and that wont be good for IPL. within next couple of years, IPL would more be controlled by Team owners, alot of money is at the stake and i don't think business-minded-team-owners would follow the BCCI lead if its not going their way.
I dont mind the Asian block calling the shots but we should be lil diplomatic, know what i am saying, if we keep on dictating terms without looking into other's interests then it'd get to us somehow and that wont be a pleasant thing. BCCI should be lil sensitive bout the issues and it should stop controling other boards.
1) have you guys read what Shane bond said bout his ICL decision? he dropped hints that kiwi board didn't have no problems with him playing for ICL, It gave up when BCCI pressurized the kiwis. I wonder how indian public would react if, lets say if some other rebel league lured in Ishant Sharma and took him away. Wouldn't it be sad for the game and indian cricket? Ishant Sharma just appeared on the scene and Shane Bond have been there for years for Newzeland. I know that it was Shane Bond's decision but what i'm really trying to say is, Is his ban justified? would Newzeland give up on shane bond if they could make a choice? I'm just wondering if BCCI would call for the ban if it was in NZs shoes?Why other countries should ban their ACE players for BCCI's interest? Do you think BCCI would ban its ACES for other boards? i highly doubt that!
2) Cricket leagues are for players, for fun, money and public attraction, why are we making it an issue out of it? lets say, ICL's status? Doesn't it make us believe that BCCI is running ICC? I mean how ICC declared ICL a "Rebel League"? It sure tells alot bout BCCI's ABSOLUTE power, so whats next? would BCCI try to play it dirty if ECB or ACB or PCB starts a professional league? From ICL's Drama, its understood that BCCI will stop other countries from establishing professional leagues because it wants all the "front-line-players" to play for them. MONOPLY?
3) Bhajji's issue, I know that it wasn't handled properly, but do you think that BCCI was justified to act like it did? i understand that it backed up its player but what i am really trying to say is, Did BCCI have any right to "influence" the verdict? Lets say, if Hyden/ponting were found guilty of any racism charges in India and the "procedure" followed by the Disciplinary Committie was as doubtful as it was in Australia? Would BCCI surrender like ACB? would BCCI accept ACB's pressure and change the verdict like ACB did? Bhajji's issue wasn't handled properly, thats a fact, but Doesn't it show that BCCI could go any path to get it done their way? didn't it give the impression "if you don't do how i say, you are screwed"? and how it handled the situation when bhajji lashed out Australian players after the tour? its like "gowan boy, say more, you are safe, we will walk with you thru thick and thin"? lol
4) Remember Indian boards' statement bout australian players? BCCI's officials told aussie players to sort their act out otherwise their ATTITUDE may effect their IPL's PRICE and IPL status? (because prices were mostly determined by a player's fame's status rather than his qualities). But didn't it sound like "Listen to us and dont screw it up if you wanna earn IPL bucks"? isnt it unfair advantage or DOMINATION?
5) Do you think it was fair of BCCI to react like it did after PCB issued NOCs to some REBEL pakistani players to allow them to play for english counties? Dont you think that BCCI pressurized PCB? Not only PCB, but it also pressurized ICC to get the REBEL tag for ICL and in same fashion it influenced every single board to ban players if they join ICL, thats retarded isnt it?
6) Dont you think that ICL's current status is the result of unfair & absolute BCCIs power?
7) Not only boards but it is also trying to control the players, and thats a hell no for the future of the game, like i always said, Boards/leagues are for players and not the other way around, how it banned akhtar and how it robbed shah rukh khan,(i have already talked bout it in one of my post, so i wont repeat it). Dont you think that BCCI is being a control freak? a bully who tries to justify every single action(doesnt matter if its legal or if its against others).
8) IPL's Prices were laughable, I understand that its going to be played in india and indian players would attract more crowd, but just imagine, if Indian players were enough to attract the crowd then why'd it need International players to make IPL a Hit? obviously international players are a need too? This League is going to be WATCHED all over the world and BCCI would earn alot of money from TV rights and its going to be watched all over the world because of International players, so dont you think that International players' prices are a joke compared to indian players? and If we say that Prices weren't determined by the board, then i doubt it, BCCI had a say there and ICON player status (whichdefies the logic man!) is there to prove it. if i were to make sense out of it "its our money, we'd spend it to earn more and make sure that OUR players get more and all you other junkies may come to dance in our party, make it look attractive but you'd not get what you deserved".
9) BCCI is also controlin' the players in weird way man, IPL(BCCI) is not keeping its promises, So many players would be busy playing for IPL and their international teams would have to do it without them, don't you think that its a threat to "proper cricket, as we know it". Not only that, but its also "trying"("trying in BCCIs dictionary means GET IT DONE) to get IPL season into the ICC schedule? Isnt BCCI trying to ruin International cricket & other international teams by keepings it player for IPL?
if it keeps going on like this, I dont think IPL is going to make it and i dont think that BCCI can play THE TRICK for long and Asian block would break into pieces. Leagues should be there, introduce some more but they should be handled differently, i'd not really want to see Leagues being managed like that!
Last edited by ecstatic_freak; 04-06-2008 at 12:37 PM.
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